Countering Asuras in the Consciousness Soul
From: holderlin66
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 6:27 pm
Subject: Re: Countering Asuras in the Consciousness Soul
--- In [email protected],
Kim
Munch Michelsen wrote:
One of the primary symptoms for an Ahrimanic
organisation is it's employees inability to make decisions. Common
sense or expertise, experience within a field, is not accepted
as background for taking responsibility. The primary solutions
for handling problems are: Same procedure as last time, or wait
until it is burning, or until it is not necessary any longer,
or the customer makes so much noise that the president of the
organisation is notified and can make a decision, or export the
problem to a consultancy company.
You will not define such an Ahrimanic organisation as evil, but
it is removing the will and feeling for moral from it's employes,
so they can't take a decision in the real world (that is outside
the organisation) based on moral or common sense. And you can't
point at one person and say that (s)he is the guilty.
Where Ahriman disables the will, goes Asuras
a step longer, here the will of the individual is replaced by
others, and the ego is eradicated. I think that one of the results
of the action of the Asuras is that the connection between the
physical mind and the spirit/ego is more or less destroyed, that
is, man is converted to a mechanical automaton. The military
could be an example, but in most cases I think it is Ahrimanic.
Bradford comments;
Tracking the target infection of the Consciousness
Soul to its lair, was neatly done by Kim. There are vivid trails
that Steiner left for us to follow that lead into Orwell country.
The Language of the Consciousness Soul and the numbing of the
Intellect has been severely infected by Language and Thought
paradigms projected through a materialistic lens. But this disinformation
began rising through the writing dictation by Ahriman through
the Soul of Nietzsche and began in earnest out of the Nazi regime.
Steiner realized that what we call 'spin' today, was rooted in
Idols, Word Idols that Francis Bacon carried into the stream
of current materialism. Here Steiner mounted an objective peeling
away of the Idols - Idols erected out of Materialism and now
entangled in the mainstream of media where ever we turn.
Steiner;
http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/19160903p01.html
"Words are treated as
if they have nothing to do with reality unless they directly
refer to properties perceivable by the senses, and nothing else.
At some time mankind had to be faced with this. Mankind had at
some time to confront the assertion, `There are words in your
language that have nothing to do with reality; in past times
one thought they had, but this was the result of superstitions
and unfounded preconceptions. In truth, it is necessary for you
to free yourselves from the content of words, for words refer
to idols.' Thus did Bacon, Bacon of Verulam, introduce the misunderstanding
of speech into our newly-arrived, fifth post-Atlantean epoch.
Under the direction of the spiritual world, he began to drive
out mankind's old feeling that language can contain the spirit.
He referred to all substantial concepts and all universal concepts
as idols. And he distinguished various categories of idols, for
he went about his work very thoroughly."
Bradford continues;
Steiner was very generous with his insights
for Francis Bacon. Steiner knew that the spiritual world was
assisting in erecting this threshold of thinking and in its Berlin
Wall of thinking Earth life and Earth Science would be bottled
up in the human domain. We have come to know these inspired forces
of materialistic word smiths as Spin Doctors. Current spin doctoring
and materialistic thought Idols knock the Consciousness Soul
and Intellect off guard. The roots of these Idols of Bacon, go
back to Nominalism and Realism.
All of these issues were hot buttoned by Steiner
to keep our eyes and ears peeled. It amounts to a focused investigation
into "those who have eyes to see and ears to hear".
An elaboration of this rich concept and an elaboration of all
of the details of Christianity is what Steiner did so well. He
entered the Earthly sphere armed with the potential of antidoting
the materialism served as thought forces to deny the Christ Event
its validity. Plus he set markers down for us to follow with
our intelligence so that we would not be lost.
Nominalism and Realism and the Idols of Language
would, will and has infected the notions of souls walking blindly
who fail to train 'eyes to see and ears to hear'. Steiner had
a heck of a time crafting a language dipped in still warmed spirit
reference and meaning. Here his degree as St. Thomas and Angel
Doctor in the world of thinking served to rebuild the shattered
bridge to the core of thought and human spiritual activity. However,
our training, as Michael Students, apparently wasn't going to
pay off in spades until the sixth epoch. Steiner's work amounts
to an active training ground in reworking conceptual foundations
in order to build pathways back to a refined Christ Reality.
Steiner:
"Nevertheless, the initial
task of the fifth post-Atlantean epoch was to develop materialism.
To a certain extent, it was necessary for materialism to be introduced.
Therefore, this fifth post-Atlantean epoch requires one to really
wrestle with the inauguration of materialism — or, better
said, the initiation of the world into materialism and into materialistic
thinking, feeling and experiencing. That had to come from two
sides. In the first place, people had to be convinced that the
salvation of humanity lay in materialism and in treating the
world as nothing but matter — naturally, it was only salvation
for the materialistic streams of the fifth post-Atlantean epoch,
but it always was presented as being universal (...)
But in order to do so, humanity
must acquire something it has not had before: it must be able
to deal with the external, mechanical, materialistic world in
order to discover the next, central task of the fifth post-Atlantean
epoch.
For, from the present time
onward, spiritual science must begin to play a role in this epoch.
But, as you will be able to judge from the resistance which it
encounters, it will not establish its validity quickly and will
only realise its full significance during the sixth post-Atlantean
epoch. That is how things stand. For everything materialistic
will continue to be a source of essential opposition during the
whole of the fifth post-Atlantean epoch. That is one aspect."
Bradford continues;
So as we witness and participate in our richly
rewarding materialistic culture, we are asked to incubate a spiritual
conception of the world. But as researcher we have to be able
to see the trail of specific markers that reveal a path. Ancient
battles of Nominalism and Realism were initial shattering constructs.
Right now today we may say, pooh, pooh, I see right wing and
I see left wing and a two party system. That is what everyone
wants you to see. Good vs Evil etc. But Orwell smelled something
fishy and his nose entered into a world of Double Speak. But
Steiner had paved the way for thinking to approach and define,
as Orwell did, Ahrimanic numbing of will and conscience.
In order to see how the Consciousness Soul
via the Ahrimanized Intellect begins to nurture Asuric like eggs
it is important to follow the fault line. So Steiner was indicating
that materialism and Ahriman's role in materialism was something
we would have to face and learn and fight for ourselves in the
landscape of DoubleSpeak. First let us look at some current double
speak and some of its early constructs.
http://dpingles.ugr.es/lies/burnside_doublespeak.htm
"In Nazi Germany (before
the concentration camps became death camps) "undesirables"
were "placed in protective custody" or "resettled".
In Australia "illegals" are held in "Immigration
Reception and Processing Centres" behind "energised
fences", receiving regular "security checks" and
occasional "extractions". Their "inappropriate
behaviours" are not allowed to "manipulate public policy".
In 1946, George Orwell wrote
Politics and Language, in which he exposed the deceits and devices
of doublespeak. He might have thought that it would lose its
power once its workings were revealed. But he would be disappointed.
Language is as powerful now as in 1933: it can hide shocking
truth, it can deceive a nation, it can hand electoral victory
to the morally bankrupt."
"In his closing address
at Nuremberg, US prosecutor Robert Jackson said:
"Nor is the lie direct
the only means of falsehood. They [the Defendants] all speak
with a Nazi double talk with which to deceive the unwary. In
the Nazi dictionary of sardonic euphemisms "final solution"
of the Jewish problem was a phrase which meant extermination
"special treatment" of prisoners of war meant killing;
"protective custody" meant concentration camp; "duty
labor" meant slave labor; and an order to "take a firm
attitude" or "take positive measures" meant to
act with unrestrained savagery."
The war in Vietnam produced
such doublespeak expressions as:
Collateral damage (killing
innocent civilians)
Removal with extreme prejudice
(assassination)
Energetic disassembly (nuclear
explosion)
Limited duration protective
reaction air strikes (bombing villages in Vietnam)
Incontinent ordnance (bombs
which hit schools and hospitals by mistake)
Active defence (invasion).
Doublespeak uses language
to smuggle uncomfortable ideas into comfortable minds. The Nazi
regime were masters at it.
http://dpingles.ugr.es/lies/doublespeak.htm
Examples:
coalition of the willing:
coalition of the coerced
shock and awe: massive bombing
axis of evil: countries to
be attacked; Bush administration hitlist
defense: war (as in Department
of Defense, formed by the merging of the Department of War and
Department of the Navy).
intelligence: spies or secrets
human intelligence: spies
asset (CIA term): foreign
spy
collateral damage: bystander
casualties
neutralize: kill
freedom fighter: armed political
rebel (positive term)
terrorist: armed political
rebel (negative term).
wet work: assassination
pre-hostility: peace
classified: secret.
In World War II, secret information
was distinguished into classes corresponding to increasing levels
of security clearances (more doublespeak there), and came to
be called classified information (as in "classified for
a particular clearance").
unclassified: not secret.
vertically deployed anti-personnel
devices: bombs
pro-growth tax policies: tax
cuts for the wealthy
decapitation strike: turn
of phrase recently used to describe the bombing of structures
where military or political leaders are assumed to be.
Steiner continues;
[Bacon the founder of Science]
" (...)there are
certain words that have simply arisen out of people's need to
live together. Men believe that these words designate something
real. These words are idols of the clan, of the people, idols
of the tribe. Then, once men start to understand the world, they
attempt to mix an erroneous spirituality into their way of seeing
things. The knowledge mankind obtains arises as though in a cave;
but to the extent that he hauls the external world into this
cave, man creates words for what he would like to know. These
words also refer to something unreal. They are the idols of the
cave: idola specis. There are still other kinds of idols —
words, that is — that designate non-existent entities. These
arise out of the fact that men are not just gathered together
into races or peoples by virtue of their blood relationships,
but because they also form associations in order to manage one
thing and another — and, indeed, more and more is being
managed, so that ultimately everything will be managed. Soon
a person will not be able to walk about in the world without
having a doctor on his left side and a policeman on his right
to see that he is thoroughly `managed'. Is that not so? Bacon
says that other unreal entities, along with the words that express
them, have arisen because of this. These unreal entities stem
from our living together in the market-place; they are the idols
of the market-place: idola fori. Then, there are yet other idols
which arise when science creates mere names. Naturally, there
are frightfully many of this kind. For if you were to set all
our lecture cycles before Bacon, with all they contain about
spiritual matters, all the words referring to spiritual things
would be idols of this kind. These are the idols that Bacon believes
to be the most dangerous, for one feels especially protected
by them, believing that they contain real knowledge: these are
the idola theatri. This theatre is an inner one where mankind
creates a spectacle of concepts for itself. The concepts are
no more real than are the characters on the stage of a theatre.
All the idols expressed in words are of these four kinds.
And learning to see through
these idols is to provide the salvation of human knowledge -
this was inaugurated by Bacon of Verulam. The idols must be understood,
their idol-like character, their character of unreality, must
be recognised, so that we can at last turn our attention towards
reality. But if all these species of idols are removed, nothing
remains but the five senses. Everyone can prove this for themselves.
Notice has thereby been served on humanity of the fifth post-Atlantean
epoch: although we need the idols and the words that express
them as a kind of common currency, they are only seen in the
correct light when we recognise their character as idols, their
unreal character. We need them as currency for the tribe, or
for individual knowledge, or the market-place we share. We even
need them for scientific investigations, for the inner theatre.
But only that which the hands can grasp and the eyes can see
is to be accepted as real — only what can be investigated
in the chemical laboratory, in the experiments of the physicist,
in the clinic. The important book which gave Bacon of Verulam's
doctrine of the idols to the fifth post- Atlantean epoch inaugurated
this way of looking at the world; it is the classic source. And
such a book shows us how the very thing that, from a certain
point of view, must be resisted, nevertheless can make its appearance
in the world in accordance with the rightful cosmic plan. The
fifth post-Atlantean epoch had to develop materialism. Therefore
the programme for materialism had to be introduced from out of
the spiritual world. And the first stage of the programme of
materialism is contained in the doctrine of the idols, which
did away with the old Aristotelian doctrine that words refer
to categories which have real significance.
Today, humanity is already
very advanced along the course of regarding anything that is
not perceivable by the senses as idols. Bacon is the great inaugurator
of the science of idols. Why, then, should the spiritual world
not employ the same head that was intended to draw mankind's
attention to the idol-like character of speech, to introduce
also the practical details of what more or less appears to be
a materialistic paradise on earth? In any case, it was essential
to present it in a light that would seem paradisiacal to the
materialistic frame of mind that had to emerge in the fifth post-Atlantean
epoch. This age needed some corresponding practical ideal. An
age which had these views on language was bound to respond to
the idea or applying its mechanics to neighbouring spheres of
the heavens."
Bradford concludes;
Having filtered out what the Heavens Mean,
and how STar Knowledge was connected to Incarnation, Embyrology
and the stunning concept of THE FINISHED WORK OF THE GODS"
dead space, dead matter, vacuums, empty lies, spin and shrunken
mental education could swarm with its intense infection down
to every newpaper owned and operated by some Corporate Ahriman
lacky, like Rupert Murdoch. Murder or Mordoc or Murdoch is simply
brilliant. What is seen in PS or attempts by DD or the Newt Gingrich
is a brilliant thinking capacity that has no idea about the cosmic
history here outlined or a clear Consciousness Soul danger that
humanity faces.
Brilliance and cunning are enough for so many
mortals trained in the double speak of current education and
enormous monopoplies of the empire of Ahriman have hyjacked the
intellect from much of humanity. Steiner re-built a conceptual
and thinking bridge, with solid penetrating research that allows
us to see how FActs, Truth and Reality have become numb and distorted
in the language of the Consciousness Soul.
Bradford
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From: holderlin66
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2004 7:25 am
Subject: Re: Countering Asuras in the Consciousness Soul
--- In [email protected],
holderlin66 wrote:
Bradford adds;
The Language of the Consciousness Soul has
had some very important Linguistic researchers. These are very,
very important. If we intend to penetrate the mysteries of our
Age, we have to see where Bacon, Francis Bacon forged a Language
of Materialism. But we need to connect some dots so that we see
the stunning value of Steiner and his research. Just how potent
was it?
Nietzsche was a Linguist. Tolkien was a Linguist;
Steiner was so much more than a Linguist that any newbie would
be stunned to see the in depth research of Language and the Word
that Steiner delivered. Newbies have no idea how each Consonant
and Each vowel was so deeply penetrated and language so raised
up out of the sea of LOGOS research that the very Sounds we speak
were re-connected to the gods. Therefore the House of the Word
is hardly a joke. You merely have to ask any Graduate of the
House of the Word and they will unfold mystery upon mystery of
each aspect of Language.
But for the Intellect, to be a linguist, as
Nietzche was, also was boon to Ahriman. Bacon served the very
core of Materialistic thinking and outlined and created an Altar
of Idols where Spin Doctors, Science and Education could worship
and promote a stream of thickening materialism, like cement that
would encase the soul. Now here is the point where we can say,
that the Individual I AM must roll away the stone, break the
concrete and come to terms with conceptual thinking patterns
that are extremely infected.
Each human being is a Ring Bearer; Each human
Being must roll away the stone of materialism and penetrate thinkings
Roman guards. Each person must hear the tone of the Risen Christ
not only calling Magdalene but in our own inner beings. Therefore
and with many other targeted I AM tools, each human being must
free themselves from the pagan altars of materialism.
This is an ancient choice that can now be
made consciously between what happened in Atlantis, between TAO
and TAOTL. See a glimpse now of how Races were being formed in
ancient Atlantis and that which out of the 15th century into
the present, how Ahriman became master of the SuperRacial spin.
Now we see into the ancient rift that even started the sinking
of Atlantis in the first place. Now Ahriman has an alternate
scientific language and a voice to declare his version of TAOTL.
It is our choice now because we did not have the soul strength
to choose consciously in Ancient Atlantis.
Now I offer one more odd Linguist to the list.
I offer what amounts to an Intellectual Soul who has daringly
and constantly entered the world of concepts and Rhetoric, Spin
and deception and by merely using the tools of dry intellect,
peeled away the surface of what lies hidden beneath.
I offer an example of a follow up here to
what was previously outlined on this thread. However for the
Newbie and for others, you can hardly even arise to a conception
of how profoundly Dr. Steiner penetrated into the mysteries of
thinking and Word. Orwell was less radical than Dr. Steiner.
Dr. Steiner was the Nietzsche for the Christ Event. While the
following writer has dryly battled, without ever claiming spiritual
cognition, but merely in the world of dry political facts, has
offered only a parched drip of insight compared to Dr. Steiner's
Well at Samaria.
Tolkien's great glamorous making of a Language
for Orcs and Elves etc is kids stuff, yet does Steiner get credit
of penetrating the secrets of Bacon and out Orwelling Orwell;
or for solidly and Scientifically penetrating the most profound
depth of the Alpahabet and Language? No. Stupidity cannot measure
or compare realities. Tolkien is impressive but Steiner and his
Language, Word and Eurythmy research is astonishing.
We live in in perpetual numbed silliness.
Tolkien very well experimented in Language but really failed
to see that Consonants and Vowels are dried and broken fragments
of Forces a.) in the Zodiac and; b.) Vowels operate as echos
of the planets. There is no language that does not consist of
consonants and vowels except the African tongue clicking language.
Every different culture and different language uses the same
tools, consonants and vowels. Am I accurate in my comparisons?
You damn well bet I am and you can take it straight to the bank
and cash it in.
But Steiner insisted, against Bacon and Ahriman's
thousands of lackies, including Rupert Murdoch, that Language,
the Logos and the Spirit were profoundly rooted in the both the
Zodiac and Planetary system and these were active as etheric
componants in Speech and Gesture. Steiner's research out shines
anything Tolkien could have invented because it is accurate,
correct and carries the Christ Mystery in the very foundations
of all Languages. The inspiration of Language that hovers over
understanding each other in Tongues of flame is a Science in
the Michael School. Therefore Steiner penetrated the Language
of the Consciousness Soul with Spirit Self and Angelic bearing
Intelligence. Does Steiner get credit for such shattering historical
research? No. Thank heavens for the Eurythmy Schools and students
of the world. They don't normally speak about the art of Language,
but if they did, they would shout exactly what I am revealing.
Here is a Man, the example I am about to give,
who has made his reputation as a Linguist and merely stands there
in the dry, crumbled catastrophe of the Intellectual Soul and
boringly repeats exactly what the Intellect denies and fails
to detect. This individual has spent his life detecting the merest
fragment of a mystery that Steiner dwarfed everyone with. So
the problem is to understand the Intellectual Soul capacity against
the Spirit Self capacity and realize how much humanity remains
Dazed and Confused in the barbed wire of Prisoners of the Intellect
and in Mental concentration camps that now call themselves the
Media.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=4804
"The first remark has
to do with the title. The title that was announced was after
the war, which is a good topic. We should be concerned with what
is coming ahead, but any title like that, especially in the United
States requires kind of a word of caution. There is a trap which
is deeply rooted in the intellectual culture, and we have to
avoid it. The trap is the doctrine that I sometimes call the
doctrine of change of course. It's a doctrine that's invoked
every two or three years in the United States. The content of
the doctrine is yes, in the past, we did some wrong things because
of our innocence or out of inadvertence, but now that's all over,
so we can't not waste any more time on this boring, stale stuff,
which incidentally we suppressed and denied while it was happening,
but must now be effaced from history as we march forward to a
glorious future.
[Brad notes Orwell 'glorious
future']
"And if you look, it
is literally every two or three years that the doctrine is invoked.
There is a qualification. We are permitted, in fact, required
to recall with great horror the misdeeds of official enemies,
and we're also required to admire with awe, our own magnificent
achievements in the past in both categories, relying in no small
measure on self-serving reconstructions, which quickly collapse
if you follow the path of paying attention to the facts, but
fortunately, that dangerous course is excluded by the convenient
doctrine of change of course, which blocks any such heresies.
"The doctrine is entirely
understandable on the part of those who are engaged in criminal
enterprises, which means just about any power system, any system
of concentrated power past and present, and of course, it includes
its acolytes, one of the major commitments of respected intellectuals
right throughout history is to be the acolytes of the systems
of power.
"Since intellectuals
write history, but it doesn't look like that, you have to be
cautious about what people write about themselves. If you look
carefully, you will find that the course -- the doctrine is dishonest,
cowardly, but has advantages. It does protect us from the danger
of understanding what's happening before our eyes, and, therefore,
inducing the kind of conformism that is useful to systems of
power and domination. So, it has its advantages.
"In any event, the word
after in the title is appropriate but with some qualifications
that should be kept in mind. And what has happened before, if
we escape the domination of the doctrine, what has happened before
can be expected to persist for elementary reasons. Policies and
actions are rooted in institutions. There's some variation, but
limited. The institutions are stable. Therefore, it's only reasonable
to expect the policies and actions to persist, adopt adapted
to circumstances. If you want to understand anything about the
world that is to come, and have any influence on the way it evolves,
more than useful to keep this in mind."
Bradford concludes;
You wish to know and most of you do know what
constitutes the Michael School capacity. It is as Golden has
said, Discernment. The Father of modern science and Terminology
of materialism, is none other than Lord Bacon. Is it true that
Haroun al Rashid and the ambassador for the Arthurians and Grail
community were on speaking terms in one life? Was the Grail ambassador
killed instead of Parsifal? Yes. What does that mean to you?
It means a great deal to Ahriman though.
Here we are at the Raschid Hotel in Baghdad
but what undercurrent spiritual conflicts are we missing in the
mighty history that has brought on Materialism, dense, cement,
lead boots, Mafia slippers and underwater gear, that demanded
the compensation and the counterpunch effort Dr. Steiner offered
as antidote to Bacon? Well, if in conversation with anybody,
you would have to say, If I told you I would have to kill you.
A part of you, if you really understand this, would have to shrivel
up. Ahriman shrivels up when we truly understand these relationships.
Steiner's profound and solid research outshines
Orwell, out Neizsche's Nietsche, Out Bacon's Bacon; Crushes Chomsky;
and towers above Tolkien. Do we have yet, any comprehension of
what Spiritual Science means to humanity? Not even a farthling.
These are lessons in measuring the difference between mighty
Earthly streams; the infection of Ahriman in the intellect; Language
use and the Consciousness Soul; and how to create the capacity
of intuition to hear the voice out of the Devachan tone ethers
that Magdalene heard in her soul just outside the tomb.
When we break out of the Intellectual Soul
entombment and understand the nature of Spiritual Science you
will be able to hear and have eyes to see and ears to hear with.
You will carry the Magdalene experience in your soul. Heck, you
might even start to like Eurythmy.
Steiner shall not be shrunk because petty
minds wish to shrink Steiner to their pettiness. Objectivity
will not allow such trivia. I merely demonstrate here the historical
depth of research that Steiner reveals that outshines and sweeps
up in his wake thinkers, writers, fiction, movies that reveal
a truly Great Soul. Come to it when you please, it stands there
as a fact. It is not Steiner that is loaded with errors, it is
us.
Bradford
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From: Steinerhead
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2004 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Countering Asuras in
the Consciousness Soul
In a message dated 1/9/04 Bradford writes:
Tolkien's great glamorous making of a Language
for Orcs and Elves etc is kids stuff, yet does Steiner get credit
of penetrating the secrets of Bacon and out Orwelling Orwell;
or for solidly and Scientifically penetrating the most profound
depth of the Alpahabet and Language? No. Stupidity cannot measure
or compare realities. Tolkien is impressive but Steiner and his
Language, Word and Eurythmy research is astonishing.
Thanks for a very penetrating post Bradford.
This past summer I had my first eurythmy and speech classes.
In our first eurythmy class we could not form a simple circle
as a group (there were twenty-four of us). But after we practiced
through some movements, we quite naturally ended our class in
what looked like a perfect circle. It was then that I realized
an inkling of what eurythmy has to offer, and the genius from
whence it came.
The speech classes were quite profound as
well. It became quite obvious when someone was really projecting
with there imagination (ethericly?) as apposed to proper pronunciation.
Thanks for bringing me back. I hope I can
somehow manage to go there again this coming summer.
Truth and Love
Mike
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From: holderlin66
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2004 9:16 am
Subject: Re: Countering Asuras in the Consciousness Soul
--- In [email protected],
Steinerhead wrote:
It was then that I realized an inkling
of what eurythmy has to offer, and the genius from whence it
came.
The speech classes were quite profound
as well. It became quite obvious when someone was really projecting
with there imagination (ethericly?) as apposed to proper pronunciation.
Thanks for bringing me back. I hope I can
somehow manage to go there again this coming summer.
No my friend it is I that thank you. I know
what a long journey it is to come to critical discernment. As
they say in other community contexts, ' you go girl'..errr wait,
maybe that's not it. Sorry I got my communities mixed up..Is
this the Anima and Animus discussion group on how to find my
inner female? I get so confused, so many clamoring rights groups
and so little time. Seriously Mike, it is great to hear all of
your posts lighting up with brotherhood and honesty.
Bradford
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From: b m
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2004 9:29 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Countering Asuras in
the Consciousness Soul
Bradford,
Your long post are possibly the closest thing I ever found to
legally tripping, and as such I'd like you to know I do greatly
enjoy reading them, my friend. However, while doing it, I'm constantly
reminded of a famous French saying which I am going to (very
poorly) translate here: Words were given to man so that he could
hide his thoughts.
Bryan
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From: holderlin66
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2004 10:37 am
Subject: Oops!
Sorry, I put two shots into the beast. I needed
only one shot, but I pressed the trigger twice to make sure it
was dead.
Bradford
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From: golden3000997
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2004 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Countering Asuras in
the Consciousness Soul
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2004 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Countering Asuras in
the Consciousness Soul
At 18:29 09.01.2004, Bryan wrote:
Bradford,
Your long post are possibly the closest thing I ever found to
legally tripping, and as such I'd like you to know I do greatly
enjoy reading them, my friend.
I'll second that. Bradford's posts knock me
out, and I'm so glad he's here and that he keeps his trippy ruminations
coming. But are you absolutely sure they're completely legal?
They don't feel that way. The only kind of safe and legal
tripping I can think of, is Frank Sinatra singing, "Flying
high with a gal in the sky is my idea of nothin' to do; and I
get a kick out of you."
Cheers,
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: b m
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Countering Asuras in
the Consciousness Soul
Tarjei Straume wrote:
The only kind of safe and legal
tripping I can think of, is Frank Sinatra singing, "Flying
high with a gal in the sky is my idea of nothin' to do; and I
get a kick out of you."
Tarjey,
What about The Beatles "I Want to Hold Your Hand" as
Mr. Bob Dylan first understood it (true story):
"And when I touch you
I feel happy
inside
It's such a feeling that my love
I get high, I get high, I get high..."
The lyrics actually go "I can't hide",
of course. And if you listen carefully to them singing - you
hear what you want, of course.
Cheers,
Bryan
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:24 pm
Subject: When Bob Dylan turned the Beatles on
At 22:47 12.01.2004, Bryan wrote:
What about The Beatles "I Want to
Hold Your Hand" as Mr. Bob Dylan first understood it (true
story):
"And when I touch
you I feel happy
inside
It's such a feeling that my love
I get high, I get high, I get high..."
The lyrics actually go "I can't hide",
of course. And if you listen carefully to them singing - you
hear what you want, of course.
Do I know the story! It's one of the most
legendary moments in 20th century cultural history! That was
how the Beatles were introduced to marijuana and got high for
the first time! Bob Dylan attended a Beatles concert in England
in the early days of their fame, and when the show was over,
he went back stage and got them high with some grass. Dylan was
surprised to learn that the Beatles had never smoked before;
he thought they did when they sang "I get high," and
that was why he had lit up. Well, when they told him that the
lyrics were "I can't hide," they all laughed like only
stoned people can and became good friends.
Far out, man :)
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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