Perspective
From: golden3000997
Date: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:37 am
Subject: Perspective
And the Waldorf Critics waste time worrying
about the level of Christianity in Waldorf Schools or Waldorf
Charter Schools! It's like worrying about a mosquito when there
is a rattlesnake poised to strike your bare leg!!
http://moose-and-squirrel.com/bozo/bozo.html
"The Christian community
has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers
who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence
the nation for Christ."
--D. James Kennedy, "Education: Public Problems and Private
Solutions," Coral Ridge Ministries, 1993
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:02 pm
Subject: PLANS and their Right-Wing Fundies
At 19:37 25.01.2004, Christine wrote:
And the Waldorf Critics waste time worrying
about the level of Christianity in Waldorf Schools or Waldorf
Charter Schools! It's like worrying about a mosquito when there
is a rattlesnake poised to strike your bare leg!!
http://moose-and-squirrel.com/bozo/bozo.html
"The Christian community
has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers
who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence
the nation for Christ."
--D. James Kennedy, "Education: Public Problems and Private
Solutions," Coral Ridge Ministries, 1993
This is precious, Christine. A little clarification:
We're not talking about the anthroposophical Christian Community
Church here, but about the Religious Right, also called The Moral
Mafia. As Fank Zappa once put it, "If you ain't born again,
they're gonna mess you up."
This right-wing religious shadow from the
darkest of the Middle Age is an eager sponsor of PLANS. At PLANS,
they're in cahoots with hardcore atheists who don't see the difference
between Jesus Christ and the Easter Bunny, or between Bugs Bunny
and the Holy Spirit, because they have a declared common enemy:
Anthroposophy and Waldorf. They're targeting the former with
every dirty trick in the book in order to get at the latter.
A wise man once said that politics makes strange bedfellows,
and I have pointed out on a previous occasion that this reminds
me of an incident in Sweden when the police arrested some neo-Nazis,
and one of their members was a black Muslim.
On the PLANS website, president Debra Snell
writes:
"People for Legal and
Non-Sectarian Schools (PLANS) is a world-wide network of former
Waldorf parents, teachers, students, administrators and trustees
who come from a variety of backgrounds with a common goal: to
educate the public about the reality behind Waldorf's facade
of progressive, arts-based education."
A neo-Nazi organization could use a similar
intro:
"People for Racial Separation
and Schools Free From Judeo-Christian Influence (SEPINF) is a
world-wide network of former Christians, ex-Jews , former Liberals,
parents, teachers, students, administrators and trustees who
come from a variety of backgrounds with a common goal: to educate
the public about the reality behind Jewry, Liberalism, and Christianity's
facade of colorful harmony, spirituality, and progressive education."
A variety of backgrounds, oh yes. The fascist
fundies have gone to bed with people they condemn to Hell for
unbelief, blasphemy, sacrilege, and secularism. Christian trigger-happy,
death-penalty-loving, gay-bashing, teenage-pregnancy-loathing
superhawks in bed with godless, atheist anarchists! All in the
name of hatred against Steiner and Anthroposophy! Gotta be a
strong force!
Incidentally, Walden seems perplexed about
my calling the PLANS-WC cult morally bankrupt, oblivious of the
fact that I picked it up from Dan Dugan some time in May or June
2001, when he made a remark about "the moral bankruptcy
of the Steiner cult." They're getting their own medicine
and don't understand what's hitting them or why.
Walden ends his post by quoting my tongue-in-cheek
intro to the WC list in January 1999, when I was trolling Dan
about being an anthro-cult victim seeking deprogramming, which
he manages to construe as my moral bankruptcy. Hello?
As a response to my remark that if Anthroposophy
is to be considered a religion, it should be treated with respect
and honor, Peter S responds like a reptile in his latest WC post
by comparing the Anthroposophical Movement to:
"The Creativity Movement,
formerly the World Church of the Creator, which urges its adherents
to engage in "Racial Holy War" against Jews and people
of color. The doctrines of this religion deserve neither respect
nor honor."
Peter F is arguing that a scientist doesn't
have to be moral, and he's right. That's where the redemption
of science through spiritualization comes into the picture. And
it wouldn't surprise me if Joel returned to argue in favor of
amoral science AND amoral occultism. That can be a blast.
Cheers,
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: golden3000997
Date: Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] PLANS and their Right-Wing
Fundies
Naw, it's not the Steiner "Christian
Community" Dr. James Kennedy is in Coral Ridge - just a
few miles down the road from my house in the "Crystal Cathedral".
My neighbor, Betty watches his TV program every Sunday. Just
makes me feel ALL KINDS of warm and secure!!
"Now, isn't that Special?"
: ) Christine
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From: holderlin66
Date: Sun Jan 25, 2004 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: PLANS and their Right-Wing Fundies
--- In [email protected],
Tarjei Straume wrote:
This right-wing religious shadow from the
darkest of the Middle Age is an eager sponsor of PLANS. At PLANS,
they're in cahoots with hardcore atheists who don't see the difference
between Jesus Christ and the Easter Bunny, or between Bugs Bunny
and the Holy Spirit, because they have a declared common enemy:
Anthroposophy and Waldorf. They're targeting the former with
every dirty trick in the book in order to get at the latter.
A wise man once said that politics makes strange bedfellows,
Bradford sees the same beast;
Firstly, glasses raised, superb Daniel, simply
superb! Secondly the same odor of deadly character assassin spin
has worked its way to the quiet town of Spiritual Science. Why?
Well we know why. For example, from out of this same stream of
Ahrimanic sewage, we are going to a knock down drag out in Time
Spirit Wars.
" Remember, please, that Karl Rove, who
runs the Bush apparatus, cut his teeth as a "Dirty Trickster"
for Richard Nixon. Bush's father was elected in 1988 in the infamous
"Willie Horton" campaign, the most racist in modern
history.
These amoral assassins will fling the lowest
available dirt on whoever got in their way, and nobody has mastered
the craft better than Rove. With unlimited money to spend, your
worst ethical nightmare is their bottom line.
But we're seeing a pattern here. Every time
Bush jumps in the polls, he slumps back down."
Bradford continues;
Oh I have seen this beast in Waldorf and roaming
like a wild cur in Anthroposophical circles as well. Waves of
machination and destructive sly, back handed, backroom ice..
When we look at Dylan and the Soul heart forces of those who
freely wing their way over this fallen electronic system...It
astonishes me that opinions get so distorted and bent. It comes
from bent lenses of the soul. It shouldn't astonish me, but it
does.
But my sense is that we have massive array
of extended Michael School observers, participants and Intellectually
clear minded souls, but I also sense what Steiner clearly indicated.
This is going to require all hands on deck in this Michael slice
of the Time Spirit, so that this monster of Right Wing - vicious
Nominalism doesn't eat humanities lunch. It is very, very nip
and tuck.
Ya all bin great
Watch your backs.
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