Your Road Maps
From: golden3000997
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:49 pm
Subject: Your Road Maps
There they are. I just sent them to you.
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From: holderlin66
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: Your Road Maps
--- In [email protected],
golden3000997 wrote:
There they are. I just sent them to you.
Bradford sighs;
In Christo Morimur; Shattering, simply shattering.
At every word I heard their courage and the echo ringing in the
depths of America today. Golden..Thank-you,
Thank-you
Novalis, Goethe and When did they die, what
date, I didn't get it exactly.. Feb 18 or 20 something in that
area? I see what a stunning refelection of Courage you were nursing..
(sigh) Shattering; Shattering how we walk with our eyes wide
shut. Shattering.
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From: golden3000997
Date: Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:25 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Your Road Maps
February 22, 1943
Sophie was not yet 22.
It cost me a lot to send these to you because
I couldn't help re-reading them and crying all night. Yes, Bradford,
shattering is EXACTLY the word that applies.
Kevin Dann e-mailed me off list and we were
talking about the White Rose in terms of teaching High School
students. I want to share this excerpt of what I wrote to him
in case anyone else may be in a position to want to share this
information with others:
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Did you see the movie, The White Rose? What was your reaction?
I belong to the White Rose Group on Yahoo. Not a lot going on
with it right at the moment, but something may spark. I think
it's important to remember that they weren't Anthroposophists
- they were mostly Catholics and considered themselves so. That
is why I think it is important not to be so egotistical as to
think that "we" are the only ones who carry an impulse!
I link it in my mind and heart to the impulse of Joan of Arc.
She had an awful fear all of her young life of dying by fire.
I think Sophie also had such fears and premonitions of execution.
Weren't they about the same age? How old was Jeanne when she
died? 19? 20 at the most? If I were going to introduce The White
Rose to Seniors, I would probably start with Jeanne first as
a lead-in with Sophie as her modern-day equivalent. But as I
said, I think the parents have to be involved or else you will
probably come under attack if the children (and they are still
children) have a hard time with it.
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I would send the parents information on the White Rose and what
I would like to present to the children and how and why and ask
them to read some material and come (adults only) to see the
movie first. Only after a lot of discussion and a real consensus
that it would be appropriate for their particular children would
I present it to the class. I would even ask the parents who could
to come and be there when we we show the movie to the children.
It IS shattering and extreme care must be taken. Some parents
might justifiably feel that their children were too sensitive
to take it. One could probably keep it in the realm of storytelling
and research and let their souls create only an inner picture.
Even so, as you have experienced from your reading, the effect
is there. I think it would be better in some ways to share it
in a loving group situation and to be prepared as parents and
teachers to offer emotional support and stories and examples
of people who survived in similar cases and why, even though
those people died physically, they did not die and they did triumph
and their impulse goes on.
Sophie Scholl b. May 9, 1921 d. February 23,
1943 21 years old
Jeanne d'Arc b. January 6, 1412 d. May 30th, 1431 19 years old
[On the evening of February 23, 1429, she began her mission for
God]
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http://www.stjoan-center.com/
A Short Biography of Saint Joan of Arc
Saint Joan was born on January 6, 1412, in
the village of Domremy to Jacques and Isabelle d'Arc. Joan was
the youngest of their five children. While growing up among the
fields and pastures of her village, she was called Jeannette
but when she entered into her mission, her name was changed to
Jeanne, la Pucelle, or Joan, the Maid.
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Joan was 'like all the others' in her village until her thirteenth
year. "When I was about thirteen, I received revelation
from Our Lord by a voice which told me to be good and attend
church often and that God would help me." She stated that
her 'Voices' were Saint Michael the Archangel, Saint Catherine
and Saint Margaret. At first her 'Voices' came to her two or
three times a week but as the time for her mission drew near
(five years later), they visited her daily telling her to 'Go
into France' to raise the siege of Orleans, conduct the Dauphin
Charles to Reims for his crowning and to drive the English from
the land.
Joan went to the neighboring town of Vaucouleurs,
which means Valley of many colors. There she spoke to the loyal
French governor by the name of Sir Robert de Baudricourt. After
many rejections he finally agreed to send her to the Dauphin
who at the time was living at the castle of Chinon.
On the evening of February 23, 1429, she began
her mission for God. In the company of six men, she rode through
the Gate of France on her way to Chinon. Joan reached this town
on March 6th, but was not received by the Dauphin, Charles, until
the evening of March 9th.
After being accepted and approved by a Church
council headed by the Archbishop of Reims, Joan was allowed to
lead the Dauphin's army. This part of her career was meteoric.
She entered Orleans on the evening of April 29th and by May 8th
the city had been freed. The Loire campaign started on June 9th
and by June 19th the English were driven out of the Loire valley.
The march to Reims started on June 29th and by July 17th Charles
was crowned King of France in the cathedral of Reims.
From this time on, for reasons know only to
King Charles, the king no longer valued Joan's advice and guidance.
She had always told him that God had given her 'a year and a
little longer' to accomplish His will but the king seemed to
take no notice of it. For almost a year he wasted what time remained
to Joan, until in frustration, she left the court. Her last campaign
lasted from the middle of March until her capture at the town
of Compiegne on May 23rd, 1430. Her 'year and a little longer'
was over.
Abandoned by her king and friends, she started
her year of captivity. As a prisoner of the Burgundians she was
treated fairly but that all changed when on November 21st, 1430,
she was handed over the English. How she survived their harsh
treatment of her is a miracle in itself.
The English not only wanted to kill Joan but
they also wanted to discredit King Charles as a false king by
having Joan condemned by the Church as a witch and a heretic.
To obtain this goal the English used those Church authorities
whom they knew to be favorable to them and the staunchest of
these was Bishop Cauchon.
Joan's trial of condemnation lasted from February
21st until May 23rd. She was finally burnt at the stake in Rouen's
market square on May 30th, 1431.
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From: holderlin66
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:39 am
Subject: Re: Your Road Maps
--- In [email protected],
golden3000997 wrote:
There they are. I just sent them to you.
Here are our roadmaps
http://www.bushin30seconds.org/
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