Anthroposophy religion in WE curriculum

Michael Kopp argues that the anthroposophical Christology I tried to outline in another thread is actually taught to children in Waldorf schools.

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From: Michael Kopp
Subject: Anthroposophy religion in WE curriculum (Was RE: Occultism)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:49:00 +1200

Tarjei Straume wrote, in a thread originally titled "Occultism":

[Quoting Steve Premo, I think, at some point in a conversation with John Morehead and others about occultism, which is the type of religion that Rudolf Steiner founding in Anthroposophy:]

In other words, at the apex of the Anthroposophical pantheon of angels, archangels, and other spiritual beings, is there one that sits above the rest?

STRAUME:

Huh, heavy. Complicated. Intricate. [snip] We're talking about the spiritual hierarchies. (I guess that's what you mean by "pantheon".)

I'll start with a simple answer to your question before I try to explain some more detail: Anthroposophy is a Christ-centered cosmology, and from the vantage point of humanity, the Risen Christ is the closest you can get to a supreme being. In the Matthew Gospel, after the Sermon on the Mount, most translations read: "For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes." (Matt. 7:29)

The word rendered as "authority" is "Exusiai", which is the Greek name for what the Hebrews called "Elohim." This signifies a specific rank of spiritual beings, a hierarchy. According to the Masonic Temple Legend, there were seven Elohim Spirits who created our solar systen. One of these Elohim, Yahve or Jehovah, appropriated the control of the Earth-evolution so to speak, and united himself with the moon. [snip] In this sense, the earth itself is the body of Christ, so that every time we eat and drink, we participate in a holy communion by consuming the products of Christ's body.

I don't remember the names of all the hierarchies (it's been many years since I studied this), but the lowest is the mineral kingdom (the youngest), then the plant kingdom, followed by the animal kingdom and then the human kingdom [snip].

Michael KOPP says:

Regardless of how fascinting this discussion is for those who want to delve into the intracacies of Steiner's made-up religion, Anthroposophy (even perhaps as science fiction, as Steve Premo suggested in a later post -- hmmmm, Steiner and L. Ron Hubbard ... brrr) the issue here is whether this stuff is central to Anthroposophy, and whether Anthroposophy is taught (overtly or covertly) in the Steiner/ Waldorf/ Anthroposophical (SWA) schools, private or, more to the point of this list, public.

We have heard incessant protestations from the SWA defenders of the faith that Anthroposophy is NOT "taught in the schools". Numerous critics have said that it IS. When critics offer the evidence of lessons which seem to contain such religious inculcation, the defenders usually reply that this must simply be included in the "_study_ of religions" part of the curriculum, and is therefore allowable as not the _teaching_ OF religion, but the teaching ABOUT many religions.

While my children began attending an SWA school here in New Zealand only in class five and class seven, I can perhaps shed some light on this subject, as I continue to visit our former school and investigate its curriculum (which was almost impossible to obtain fully-descriptive information about while we were in the school, contrary to the law of New Zealand, and which is even more difficult to obtain now that I have not even the cover of a contractual arrangement with the school; though the same official information law still applies, and I am entitled to the information).

I attended the last public open day at the school, where lesson books said to be representative of the whole school were spread in profusion all around a large room, as is the standard advertising practice of SWA schools, despite their continued refusal to provide these materials for closer, long-term, comprehensive inspection.

These works of the children are uniformly impressive in their craft-beauty, hand-written with an attempt at good penmanship, profusely illustrated with soft, warm-coloured drawings, and appearing to be complete little books on each subject. The fact that most, if not all, of the information is copied from material written on the chalk-boards during main lesson lectures by the teachers is not obvious until one compares several books on the same topic, which is difficult to do because these are not usually available in multiples.

Prominent among the "lower school" (class one to class seven or so) display this year at this school were a number of what appeared to be class-one or class-two main-lesson books. And among these I found several that contained _exactly_ the "creation of the earth" story found in the material Tarjei Straume is elucidating to us above and in this thread on "occultism".

These lesson books contained an apparently-complete creation story (in terms of the elementary grade level), with Elohim, Yahweh (or Yahve or Jehovah, as Tarjei says), and the creation of the various aspects of the Universe and the Earth as the body of Christ and other spirits.

(My description is from memory, and may not be exact, but contains the elements mentioned by Tarjei. I was not able to obtain a copy of this lesson book or others, not even by photographing them, as I was prevented by the presence of at least two main Anthroposophist/teacher "monitors" in the room -- a new development not occasioned by MY presence; they were there when I got there, and I don't think the pickets on the outposts saw me coming <G>.)

Now, it could be (and probably will be) argued by the defenders of the faith that this was not, in fact, a lesson IN the religion of Anthroposophy, but simply a "story", or "myth" or "legend" about "history", common in the SWA curriculum, especially in the lower grades.

It could be (and probably will be) argued that this was not the _inculcation_ by stealth of the religious tenets of Anthroposophy (or Theosophy, or any other religious world-view), but simply a study in "comparative religion".

In other words, the argument could be (and probably will be) that this is not the teaching OF religion, but teaching ABOUT religion(s).

In FIRST or SECOND GRADE? In this detail and faithfulness?

In language that reads more like like Tarjei's quoting of (or allusion to) direct Anthroposphical "scripture" from Steiner himself, than a textbook or lecture _explanation of_ religion?

And how would children this young -- well below the age at which Steiner says they have developed abstract reasoning powers -- DO the intellectual task of _comparing_ religions? Or even understanding them?

There was nothing in this lesson book to indicate that it was anything other than what it seemed to me: a religious lesson about the creation of the world, according to the religion of Anthroposophy (or Theosophy).

This is the foundation of the curriculum in, and indeed is the sole purpose of, SWA schools, according to evidence presented on this list over the last three years, much of it from Steiner's own words, and the dogmatic writing and teaching of those who promote his theology and pedagogy in schools today.

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[It should be understood that I cannot say that all SWA schools have this kind of overt religious teaching, especially those public or publicly-funded schools in the United States which have "incorporated" or been "inspired by" SWA. But it certainly seems that we have heard about it from other critics who have experienced it in their own schools; and it is in the SWA pedagogical literature, according to research presented here by critics. It seems likely that if it is found in a state-funded, state-integrated, public school here in New Zealand, it is likely to be found, to one degree or another, in one guise or another, in most schools where it can be got away with, and certainly in those private and "orthodox" SWA schools.

[It also should be understood that this is -- unfortunately -- LEGAL here in some New Zealand public schools, because the Private Schools Integration Act was passed specifically to give financial aid to the private, mostly religious schools (mostly Catholic and Anglican) of the landed gentry of this country which have always been the stalwarts of conservative political parties here (including the born-again, right-wing/Thatcherite/Reaganite/ free-market/monetarist _Labour_ (formerly socialist) Government that actually passed Integration), and because New Zealand, like its mother England, has almost a state religion, and no constitutional separation of church and state. It's a bit complicated here, eh?

[Although, as I said above, our children entered our Steiner school after this grade level, and thus did not have this overt religious teaching, to which I would have objected strenuously as a breach of our contractual understanding that there would be no teaching OF religion or Anthroposophy in the classroom, we did find allusions to both, and the use of mythology central to Anthroposophy, throughout the teaching of our children over the five years we were in the school. We objected throughout this period, and finally left the school, because we had absolutely no satisfaction or sympathy, before the children finished, and placed them back in public schools.

[It should also be understood that I have no problem with this kind of curriculum in a PRIVATE SWA school. I do, however, think that it should be made clearer to intending and prospective customers. Instead, it is hidden or glossed-over, in the experience of the critics, and if the evidence of other SWA schools -- many of them now on the World Wide Web -- is any guide.]

Cheers from Godzone,

Michael Kopp
Wellington, New Zealand

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From: "ksutphen"
Subject: Re: Anthroposophy religion in WE curriculum
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:54:49 -0700

Michael Kopp posts:

Prominent among the "lower school" (class one to class seven or so) display this year at this school were a number of what appeared to be class-one or class-two main-lesson books. And among these I found several that contained _exactly_ the "creation of the earth" story found in the material Tarjei Straume is elucidating to us above and in this thread on "occultism".

It appears to be standard curriculum to teach religion in the lower grades, or at least the 2nd grade, in Waldorf schools . . . at least in my limited experience. Debra Snell has a number of lesson books her sons completed in this grade that exclusively contain these religious *stories.* At the public Oak Ridge School in Sacramento, CA, the 2nd grade lessonbooks also contained this type of religious indoctrination. The Oak Ridge School was converted into a Waldorf magnet school and this curriculum focus in the 2nd grade appeared after the conversion, in direct violation of state curriculum frameworks and district guidelines.

The explanation for these *lessons* was that the children were being taught *about* religion as an academic course on comparative religions. Yeh right . . . in 2nd grade. This explanation seems to be the standard Waldorf School reply when confronted with the *evidence*.

As you so aptly pointed out . . . why would anyone teach children this young a course in comparative religion? This, unfortunately, is one more example of the intentional deception common in the schools PLANS has had contact with. No one in their right mind, not even Anthroposophists, would teach 2nd graders a course in comparative religion. And yet . . . the soft, lovely drawings, beautiful writing, paintings, etc., lull districts, et al, into accepting these sorts of explanations and, even, rigorously defending them despite their ludicrous nature.

I support the teaching of any religion in private school in the US. However, I don't support it in public schools as it clearly violates the separation of church and state.

Kathy

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From: "Tolz, Robert"
Subject: RE: Anthroposophy religion in WE curriculum
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:04:34 -0400

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From: ksutphen

I support the teaching of any religion in private school in the US. However, I don't support it in public schools as it clearly violates the separation of church and state.

Kathy

That statement simply is not true.

Bob Tolz

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From: Bruce
Subject: Re: Anthroposophy religion in WE curriculum (Was RE: Occultism)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:18:11 EDT

In einer eMail vom 03.05.99 00:57:54 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt Michael Kopp:

The fact that most, if not all, of the information is copied from material written on the chalk-boards during main lesson lectures by the teachers is not obvious until one compares several books on the same topic, which is difficult to do because these are not usually available in multiples.

...which is because there is not usually enough space for *one* of each book, let alone 2 or more.

I have nothing to hide, but I am not sending copies of books to someone who is deliberately trying to do me out of a job (albeit maybe very indirectly).. would you?

Bruce

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From: Michael Kopp
Subject: Re: Anthroposophy religion in WE curriculum (Was RE: Occultism)
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:13:10 +1200

In einer eMail vom 03.05.99 00:57:54 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt Michael Kopp:

The fact that most, if not all, of the information is copied from material written on the chalk-boards during main lesson lectures by the teachers is not obvious until one compares several books on the same topic, which is difficult to do because these are not usually available in multiples.

...which is because there is not usually enough space for *one* of each book, let alone 2 or more.

I have nothing to hide, but I am not sending copies of books to someone who is deliberately trying to do me out of a job (albeit maybe very indirectly).. would you?

Bruce

Yes, if I believed I had nothing to hide.

You will always be able to teach in public schools if you have a standard teaching qualification, or if you teach in a school system that allows special registration for good or needed teachers without the standard ones.

You will always be able to teach in private Steiner/ Waldorf/ Anthroposophical schools, probably no matter what your qualifications, if you profess Anthroposophy.

Good luck. Try Godzone, the schools here (especially one of my prior acquaintance) are always needing _good_ teachers.

Cheers from Godzone,

Michael Kopp
Wellington, New Zealand

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From: Bruce
Subject: Re: Anthroposophy religion in WE curriculum (Was RE: Occultism)
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:06:58 EDT

In einer eMail vom 04.05.99 09:25:55 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt Michael Kopp:

I have nothing to hide, but I am not sending copies of books to someone who is deliberately trying to do me out of a job (albeit maybe very indirectly).. would you?

Bruce

Yes, if I believed I had nothing to hide.

I didn't believe that I would have to wait 10 seconds to get my undisputed deposit (1000 DM) back on my flat in Mainz, especially since the landlady is a solicitor. That was 2 years ago (in July). My faith in what seems on the surface fair has been smashed. I probably need a new lawyer - the case has been postponed, by my landlady who is representing herself, twice.

You will always be able to teach in public schools if you have a standard teaching qualification, or if you teach in a school system that allows special registration for good or needed teachers without the standard ones.

I don't want to teach in public schools, thanks!

You will always be able to teach in private Steiner/ Waldorf/ Anthroposophical schools, probably no matter what your qualifications, if you profess Anthroposophy.

In Germany that isn't enough - I need state recognition too!

Good luck. Try Godzone, the schools here (especially one of my prior acquaintance) are always needing _good_ teachers.

I will let you know when PLANS has blasted all other waldorf schools off the planet - well maybe I may come to Godzone anyway, at least I know *one* resident!

Bruce

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